LOL are you joking? Neither of the two Rhade/Ede girls look East Asian and they don't give me any Shandong/Japanese/Korean vibe. What you're saying is basically fairy tale, totally imaginary without any evidence.

The girl on the left is clearly mixed with the aborigines of SE Asia, whereas the girl on the right gives me Austroasiatic or Western Austronesian vibes and her facial features remind me of some Far South Chinese/Kradai peoples.

And by the way, please try to guess the origin of the 3 Chinese women that I posted earlier. They each come from a different province. I'll reveal the answers after you, uisashi, okarina, and shirvanshah have all taken a guess.

1. Is probably Southwest, has that southwestern body type.
2. Why does this woman look weirdly Hebei to me. Looks like some central-north hunter gatherer type.
3. Some Guangxi pheno?

The autosomal DNA clines within East Asia are relatively well known, so I will focus on phenotype impressions I've gathered from uisashi's private discussion board. Not going to describe specific traits or features

TL;DR- Nara is ranking the passability of coastal Chinese subgroups as the following: coastal Northern China (including Dongbei) > Jiangnan (Yangtze Delta) > Fujian/Taiwan > Lingnan

However, I'm hearing that the rare Fujianese/Taiwanese who do pass as Korean pass "very well" compared to the coastal Northern Chinese that the iGen Overseas Chinese posters are more familiar with.

I'm also hearing that super-regional Jiangnan faces pass better than super-regional coastal Shandong/Dongbei faces.

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Re: MNOPS- I think 1 is Inland Yangtze Basin (facial proportions look vaguely SEA-shifted) and 2 looks fairly pan-China. Agree that 3 looks Daic influenced, Guangxi or Guizhou-ish. If I had to guess specific provinces, 1 = Sichuan/Chongqing, 2 = Henan, 3 = Guangxi.

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Oh my, I'm really bad at this. Will admit that despite being a Chinese descendant myself, I'm very ignorant of the diversity of Han Chinese phenotypes due to my very limited exposure to people from China, Taiwan, HK, Singapore. Heck I know more about SE Asian looks than Han Chinese phenotypes. Most of the Chinese phenotypes that I'm familiar with are Southeastern ones as most Sino descendants in Thailand are Teochew, Hakka, Hainanese and to a lesser extent, Hokkien descendants.

But I will try.

1. Don't know
2. From Hunan, Hubei?
3. Not sure. Somewhere from South?

Thanks for your guess. I'll reveal the answers after throway2 has taken a guess.

And by the way, you could share this with Nara and she could take a guess as well if she wants to. nara

I think Korean-passing phenotypes can be found along the eastern Chinese coast from north to south, though coastal Northern China (Liaoning, Hebei, and Shandong) is probably the most Korean-passing due to proximity.

Edit: no worries, I think I misunderstood you. Individual 1 Sichuan/Chongqing, individual 2 Henan, and individual 3 Guangxi that's your answer. Thanks for your participation.

1. No- I don't get the impression that people from Hunan and Jiangxi really pass well as Korean compared to the coastal rice-growing provinces. People from the inland rice-growing provinces look more distinctly "Chinese" IMO. There's probably a coastal-inland cline in addition to a north-south cline within coastal China.

No comment on Teochew and Hakka facial passability, although I suspect Teochews might superficially pass better than Hokkiens/Hoklos/Taiwanese due to sometimes being more pseudo-Nordsinid/Yayoi looking? I don't even think most Fujianese/Taiwanese pass that well in Korea, because as a group they have more distinctly Hmong-Mien, Austroasiatic, and Daic features and facial proportions- which are different from the shared Austronesian and Para-Austronesian (or "Coastal Ghost") features that Koreans and Japanese have.

2. I would say no; it's a relatively poor, inland province so a lot of the cultural stereotypes are different. Different parts of Anhui have different cultural affinities with the North China Plain, Jiangsu (Northern Yangtze Delta), and Hubei/Jiangxi/Hunan respectively. throway thinks a subset of Anhui faces overlap with a subset of Korean or Japanese faces in ways that most Northern Han don't, which I somewhat agree with but don't feel like copy + pasting here.

3. Eric Chou doesn't pass as Korean. His nose shape and nose tip + mouth size combo look distinctly Fujian to me. He doesn't have the "pseudo-Yayoi" look I think overlaps with stereotypical Koreans, nor does he overlap with the "southern-shifted Satsuma" look that more Taiwanese-passing Koreans have.





4. I remember Nara said something like 1/4 of random Dongbei/coastal Northern China faces in group photos pass directly as Korean, while for Jiangnan it's more like 1/10 or 1/8, and for Fujian and Taiwan it's under 1/10. Her comment was more about how well us PRC-origin Overseas Chinese members pass as Korean. We don't represent the parts of China our ancestries are from.

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post-guessing reveal: u/helo456 thinks the person #3 is 很漂亮