foheadDynasty
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Post by foheadDynasty on Oct 17, 2016 3:16:04 GMT
A China Chinese person goes online finds a Chinese overseas diaspora chatting it up and starts to land rude remarks about how they know nothing about being Chinese. When the diaspora overcomes the mainlander with remarkable Sinid intelligence and manners the identity police (aka Tianyah) goes ballistic and begins to counter using very ambiguous Chinese slang, a vulgar knowledge afforded through interacting with an ever present Chinese majority population in China. Apparently to some mainlanders being Chinese ends at obtaining a Chinese passport and speaking Chinese creative slang and vulgar language.
Pass it on.
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eldertree
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Post by eldertree on Oct 17, 2016 11:02:46 GMT
I think when you want to prove how ～Chinese～ you are by posting vulgar slang and how disrespectful you can be, there's a problem in your definition of Chineseness and what it means to be Chinese
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eldertree
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Post by eldertree on Oct 17, 2016 21:21:18 GMT
There are questions about the politics in China or living in China that Overseas Chinese cannot fully answer, and it would be good to have China-Chinese like Tianya who can speak to those experiences.
HOWEVER, when it comes to experiences as a Chinese person living in NON-CHINESE societies, she has absolutely NO EXPERIENCES or credibility on these issues. Therefore, I find it logically kaput for her to try to shut people up when they want to talk about injustices towards ethnic Chinese in these contexts.
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foheadDynasty
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Post by foheadDynasty on Oct 18, 2016 1:40:15 GMT
There are questions about the politics in China or living in China that Overseas Chinese cannot fully answer, and it would be good to have China-Chinese like Tianya who can speak to those experiences. HOWEVER, when it comes to experiences as a Chinese person living in NON-CHINESE societies, she has absolutely NO EXPERIENCES or credibility on these issues. Therefore, I find it logically kaput for her to try to shut people up when they want to talk about injustices towards ethnic Chinese in these contexts. That's true but what she did was simply to bash on you using vulgar language and slang. It's almost as if anything you said had no effect simply because you didn't know the right words to use. I don't think she was innocently standing by and using her harsh words. She had waited until she could no longer tolerate your line of reasoning due to the fact that it hit every nail on the head. That's exactly how I feel about those kinds of people. They trash on overseas Chinese on the low note of their lack of experience in living in China even when the things overseas Chinese are talking about are universal things such as level of language expertise which can be logically deduced into 6 separate levels. I would love it for our Peranakan friend xng to show her up again. All he said was the rhetorical "A newspaper isn't reading for advanced level Chinese users? Why don't you try writing a newspaper to see if you can even do it?" |
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eldertree
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Post by eldertree on Oct 18, 2016 15:31:09 GMT
There are questions about the politics in China or living in China that Overseas Chinese cannot fully answer, and it would be good to have China-Chinese like Tianya who can speak to those experiences. HOWEVER, when it comes to experiences as a Chinese person living in NON-CHINESE societies, she has absolutely NO EXPERIENCES or credibility on these issues. Therefore, I find it logically kaput for her to try to shut people up when they want to talk about injustices towards ethnic Chinese in these contexts. That's true but what she did was simply to bash on you using vulgar language and slang. It's almost as if anything you said had no effect simply because you didn't know the right words to use. I don't think she was innocently standing by and using her harsh words. She had waited until she could no longer tolerate your line of reasoning due to the fact that it hit every nail on the head. That's exactly how I feel about those kinds of people. They trash on overseas Chinese on the low note of their lack of experience in living in China even when the things overseas Chinese are talking about are universal things such as level of language expertise which can be logically deduced into 6 separate levels. I would love it for our Peranakan friend xng to show her up again. All he said was the rhetorical "A newspaper isn't reading for advanced level Chinese users? Why don't you try writing a newspaper to see if you can even do it?" What bothers me is this false belief by Tianya types is that just because someone speaks your language for professional reasons, they are suddenly ～Chinese～ Like no. A non-Chinese person speaking Chinese does not mean they are Chinese. Neither does it mean they like you, your culture, your people, or your country. It does not mean they identify as Chinese or you should identify them as Chinese. This thinking is insanely retarded. I think for many China-Chinese identity police like Tianya, when a Western White 老外 speaks Chinese, they are very impressed and start to have romantic feelings and erotic fantasies, they are very keen to consider them ～Chinese～, the naïveté is astounding. |
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Post by foheadDynasty on Oct 22, 2016 6:12:40 GMT
That's it. It's like if an African person starts speaking Chinese instead of a white person then they will take that example instead. They will say "You know even African Americans know how to use chopsticks well these days. I know so and so who is African American and can speak Chinese and he knows kung fu so it just goes to show you you can't look at people's color of skin to gauge whether they are really Chinese. To be Chinese you have to be like me and be Unamerican or Unbritish or Unxyz."
Whaaaa?
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