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Post by eldertree on May 2, 2017 14:17:19 GMT
Did China have its very own Rococo period and is it fairly or unfairly associated with the Qing dynasty? The Chinese Rococo or Late Baroque analogue is all about gaudy colours and highly ornate patterns and designs bordering on the kitsch and whimsical and arguably the psychadelic. For instance these antique teapots from the Qing dynasty:    |
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Post by foheadDynasty on May 2, 2017 16:21:50 GMT
Did China have its very own Rococo period and is it fairly or unfairly associated with the Qing dynasty? The Chinese Rococo or Late Baroque analogue is all about gaudy colours and highly ornate patterns and designs bordering on the kitsch and whimsical and arguably the psychadelic. For instance these antique teapots from the Qing dynasty: I think the ornate designs of Chinese date to some particular time. The creations on porcelain is really amazing because of it coinciding with the Rococco period demonstrating Chinese superiority in jumpstarting their artistic movement. |
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Post by eldertree on May 2, 2017 20:21:08 GMT
Did China have its very own Rococo period and is it fairly or unfairly associated with the Qing dynasty? The Chinese Rococo or Late Baroque analogue is all about gaudy colours and highly ornate patterns and designs bordering on the kitsch and whimsical and arguably the psychadelic. For instance these antique teapots from the Qing dynasty: I think the ornate designs of Chinese date to some particular time. The creations on porcelain is really amazing because of it coinciding with the Rococco period demonstrating Chinese superiority in jumpstarting their artistic movement. I think yes they may have very well been inspired by it. I am aware that Europeans had a fascination with all things Chinese around that time. They even tried to imitate "Chinese" styles which is called Chinoiserie. Interestingly, it turns out that I am not the first one to notice a link between Qing era styles and Rococo: "As a style, chinoiserie is related to the Rococo style" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChinoiserieQing artefacts which to me are very "rococo":      |
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Post by eldertree on May 2, 2017 20:24:54 GMT
You can see the link when comparing styles. This is a British 17th century artefact in the Rococo style. Note how "Qing" it looks:  |
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Post by redwine on May 3, 2017 4:19:50 GMT
I have a hard time telling whether the pieces are Qing inspired British tea sets or British inspired Qing sets.
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Post by eldertree on May 3, 2017 19:29:08 GMT
I have a hard time telling whether the pieces are Qing inspired British tea sets or British inspired Qing sets. Based on what I've seen I believe it's Qing inspired. Because they call porcelain "China" which communicates to me that's the origin or source of that style. Qing were all about gaudiness and extravagant ornate styling and then suddenly in the 1700s Europe developed a taste for over the top styling along with Chinoiserie. Coincedence? I think not. And it's interesting that following the fascination and admiration with all things Chinese in the 1700s, came a disgust and demonisation of Chinese in general by the 1800s. By then Rococo trends was completely replaced with Neoclassicism. So it was back to symmetric Greco-Roman styles. It's very fascinating how artistic trends correspond to these changes in attitudes. See this "Chinese House" in Potsdam, Germany built in the 1700s which wants to showcase opulence with the ornate gold columns and statues:  This is in Drottningholm, Sweden. Note golden "dragons" but it's the wrong kind of dragon:  ] |
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