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eldertree • Manager of Imperial Park Realms Posts: 847 Likes: 286 Ethnic Heritage: Chinese in a Chinese body Gender Identity: Cis	Post by eldertree on Mar 5, 2017 18:40:36 GMT
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defiancexyzz • Laureate of Rice Agricultures Posts: 318 Likes: 495	Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 5, 2017 19:04:41 GMT Mandarin? thejackal,
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eldertree • Manager of Imperial Park Realms Posts: 847 Likes: 286 Ethnic Heritage: Chinese in a Chinese body Gender Identity: Cis	Post by eldertree on Mar 5, 2017 20:02:13 GMT Yeah I know it's Mandarin but I mean what dialect of Mandarin It sounds a bit whistly, I'm not sure if lisp is the correct term, because that describes pronouncing /s/ like /th/ The /s/ or /z/ whistles and produces a high frequency, I noticed Southern Mandarin accents tend to do this or maybe it's just me 在 sounds like "t'sai" rather than "zai"
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defiancexyzz • Laureate of Rice Agricultures Posts: 318 Likes: 495	Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 5, 2017 20:16:52 GMT Yeah, thought it was a quiz It's actually quite hard to make out when it's so heavily slanged but it sounds like Dongbei dialect. Your analysis of Southern dialects is pretty much correct.
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eldertree • Manager of Imperial Park Realms Posts: 847 Likes: 286 Ethnic Heritage: Chinese in a Chinese body Gender Identity: Cis	Post by eldertree on Mar 5, 2017 20:27:43 GMT Skip to 0:43, he whistles the /s/ and /z/ sounds so I think it's not Dongbei. I think the whistling of the /s/ and /z/ sounds is more of a Southern dialect thing This guy does it too, he is from Guangzhou I think. Skip to 1:11: He's one of my favourite Chinese rappers lol But I don't know, it seems that not all people who speak Southern dialects do the "Chinese lisp". A high frequency do though for some reason
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redwine • Moderator Posts: 179 Likes: 41 Ethnic Heritage: Blackenese	Post by redwine on Mar 5, 2017 20:33:00 GMT What dialect do you speak Defience?

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redwine • Moderator Posts: 179 Likes: 41 Ethnic Heritage: Blackenese	Post by redwine on Mar 5, 2017 20:36:04 GMT Mar 5, 2017 20:16:52 GMT defiancexyzz said: Yeah, thought it was a quiz It's actually quite hard to make out when it's so heavily slanged but it sounds like Dongbei dialect. Your analysis of Southern dialects is pretty much correct. But Dongbei is not southern. theWalrus is saying it sounds like a southern dialect

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defiancexyzz • Laureate of Rice Agricultures Posts: 318 Likes: 495	Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 5, 2017 21:00:16 GMT Mar 5, 2017 20:27:43 GMT eldertree said: Skip to 0:43, he whistles the /s/ and /z/ sounds so I think it's not Dongbei. I think the whistling of the /s/ and /z/ sounds is more of a Southern dialect thing This guy does it too, he is from Guangzhou I think. Skip to 1:11: He's one of my favourite Chinese rappers lol But I don't know, it seems that not all people who speak Southern dialects do the "Chinese lisp". A high frequency do though for some reason Aha your quiz was difficult but you're probably right, wished it wrote down the location in the title like your second video There's even a Southern name, Wong to guide you. Your favorite rapper is pretty good. I think I need to listen to more rap though, I never paid much attention to this genre before but it sounds better than I thought (based on those you linked) redwine, yeah I know. I thought it was a Dongbei accent but walrus explanation is reasonable
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eldertree • Manager of Imperial Park Realms Posts: 847 Likes: 286 Ethnic Heritage: Chinese in a Chinese body Gender Identity: Cis	Post by eldertree on Mar 6, 2017 0:09:36 GMT Hmm but Dongbei dialects / accents are basically Standard Mandarin. Actually no it has more frequent use of 儿, but much less than Beijing and Tianjin. Dongbei dialects are generally a toned down and mild version of Beijinghua, lol
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eldertree • Manager of Imperial Park Realms Posts: 847 Likes: 286 Ethnic Heritage: Chinese in a Chinese body Gender Identity: Cis	Post by eldertree on Mar 6, 2017 0:28:14 GMT It's hard to tell when they rap though, they put on a "rap voice". But that whistly high frequency /s/, /z/ and /c/ is a feature I would associate with Southern dialects, so uh idk. RiseofKoba posted a video of Jing Wen speaking Chinese and she doesn't have the high frequency lisp.
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defiancexyzz • Laureate of Rice Agricultures Posts: 318 Likes: 495	Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 6, 2017 17:43:51 GMT Mar 6, 2017 0:09:36 GMT eldertree said: Hmm but Dongbei dialects / accents are basically Standard Mandarin. Actually no it has more frequent use of 儿, but much less than Beijing and Tianjin. Dongbei dialects are generally a toned down and mild version of Beijinghua, lol Yes, in the first video they were using Standard Mandarin which makes their native dialect quite ambiguous. It's true that the Dongbei accents/dialects and Beijing dialect are quite close to Standard Mandarin but still when talking amongst themselves it can be quite regional. Of course erhuayin is a Beijing specialty, it's the defining feature of Beijinghua lol. But the Beijing dialect is becoming increasingly rare and there is a running joke on the internet because of this. It's a result of population shifts, people from all over China now have residence there. Either way, do you find it interesting that cities in Liaoning and Jilin sound more different to Beijingers when compared to people from Heilongjiang? As for the Tianjin dialect, I find it quite distinct even among the Northern dialects, can't really put it in words but I feel it's thicker and fiercer.
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defiancexyzz • Laureate of Rice Agricultures Posts: 318 Likes: 495	Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 6, 2017 18:06:36 GMT Mar 6, 2017 0:28:14 GMT eldertree said: It's hard to tell when they rap though, they put on a "rap voice". But that whistly high frequency /s/, /z/ and /c/ is a feature I would associate with Southern dialects, so uh idk. RiseofKoba posted a video of Jing Wen speaking Chinese and she doesn't have the high frequency lisp. "Rap voice"... love that. People always sound very different when singing. They tend to enunciate better and lose their usual accents. Those sounds actually are typical of Southern accents indeed. I wished I knew more about Southern dialects like Cantonese to make a better contribution, I like the sound though. As the Chinese language becomes standardized, you'd find that the distinction becomes less and less. Lots of the younger generations sound quite similar actually no matter where they are. However, they also change their accents depending on who they're speaking to and that's perhaps why Jing Wen doesn't have a heavily regional accent. I've felt that the Guangxi accent is the most distinct of all, the /c/ sound is really clear when they speak. My grandma's good friend is from Guangxi and I love her accent. It's so dreamy how her words seem to bounce when she speaks in Mandarin. Her grand kids sound a lot more ambiguous, closer to the standard. As for what's standard, it can be quite subjective as well. I've actually had friends argue that people from Harbin have the most standard Chinese, not Beijingers but most of the older folks around me think the best place to learn 'proper' Chinese is in Beijing so well...
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thejackal • Architectural Master Posts: 32 Likes: 54	Post by thejackal on Mar 29, 2017 9:40:05 GMT Mar 5, 2017 19:04:41 GMT defiancexyzz said: Mandarin? thejackal ,
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defiancexyzz • Laureate of Rice Agricultures Posts: 318 Likes: 495	Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 29, 2017 20:29:22 GMT Mar 29, 2017 9:40:05 GMT thejackal said: Mar 5, 2017 19:04:41 GMT defiancexyzz said: Mandarin? thejackal , Months of trying to convince you to post more often here and this is all you say! Man, you suck J/K. Lunch or dinner this weekend...it'll be a blast
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