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Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 20, 2017 8:01:01 GMT
eldertree @la branch I saw this thread in the spam box since it was first posted but never brought it up intentionally. I did give hints here and there (by mentioning the Tibet thread and how double standards is the EB88 standard). I was just waiting, testing to see the first person to notice that thread. To tell you the truth, I was hoping for someone to bring it up. And lo and behold, you were the first (but that's something I've observed about you all the while I've been browsing EB88). And I'll tell you why it's in spam. Depending on who put it there, the motives vary but remain roughly the same. TBH, I think it's poohunter the hypocrite who placed it there but I can't be certain. They're basically either: 1. trying to "protect" non-existant Burmese members on EB88 from being "played against each other" (but have no qualms about playing 'Han' Chinese against our own ethnic minorities/neighbors) 2. brushing aside any persecutions against 'Kokang Chinese' because we're lower than dirt, our lives don't really matter compared to other Asians they pander to (and who they've barely had a relationship with) Here's why that logic is stupid and shows how racist and hypocritical EB88ers really are. 1. The MNDAA aren't just Chinese, they're multi-ethnic people including many other ethnic natives to those regions of which the Kokang are a part of. They've been fighting for a civil war for a long, long time. You don't even have to guess why they've decided to unite against the Myanmar army 2. They only care about Asians/peoples persecuted by "Chinese" (and mostly in the distant past), but think nothing of the natives persecuted/genocided by SEAs NOW. 3. They step all over these people just to trash the Chinese, who've tried their best to remain neutral (you can see Qu Don's retarded comments on Vietrealm for reference). It's really easy to politicize what's going on in Myanmar, look down on them or silence their sufferings just to score brownie points vs China. Or say they're all Chinese, they deserve it. Easy especially when you don't have to suffer bombs, mines and artillery but instead write garbage on a forum. So where's poohunter to defend these people's right to build their own paths? Where's 222, the expert of Shan, Dai and all Indochinese/Myanmar ethnicities to wish for their freedom? Where's the respect and compassion for people who clearly need it most? The people I hate most are those holding contempt and little compassion for the most vulnerable, the undefended, the weak, the poor, the downtrodden. I despise those who callously mistreat and slander minorities without a voice of their own. Always have, always will. To the certain somebodies, grow a heart and get some compassion for crying out loud.
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Post by eldertree on Mar 22, 2017 8:22:32 GMT
The problem with eb88 is that the admin is easily manipulated by the likes of the three stooges. They suggest something to get their revenge on me for correcting their stupidity and misinformation in the past and he does it straight away because he can't think for himself.
They take it as an affront that they got corrected by me. They want blood.
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Post by galvatronprime on Mar 24, 2017 13:09:42 GMT
eldertree @la branch I saw this thread in the spam box since it was first posted but never brought it up intentionally. I did give hints here and there (by mentioning the Tibet thread and how double standards is the EB88 standard). I was just waiting, testing to see the first person to notice that thread. To tell you the truth, I was hoping for someone to bring it up. And lo and behold, you were the first (but that's something I've observed about you all the while I've been browsing EB88). And I'll tell you why it's in spam. Depending on who put it there, the motives vary but remain roughly the same. TBH, I think it's poohunter the hypocrite who placed it there but I can't be certain. They're basically either: 1. trying to "protect" non-existant Burmese members on EB88 from being "played against each other" (but have no qualms about playing 'Han' Chinese against our own ethnic minorities/neighbors) 2. brushing aside any persecutions against 'Kokang Chinese' because we're lower than dirt, our lives don't really matter compared to other Asians they pander to (and who they've barely had a relationship with) Here's why that logic is stupid and shows how racist and hypocritical EB88ers really are. 1. The MNDAA aren't just Chinese, they're multi-ethnic people including many other ethnic natives to those regions of which the Kokang are a part of. They've been fighting for a civil war for a long, long time. You don't even have to guess why they've decided to unite against the Myanmar army 2. They only care about Asians/peoples persecuted by "Chinese" (and mostly in the distant past), but think nothing of the natives persecuted/genocided by SEAs NOW. 3. They step all over these people just to trash the Chinese, who've tried their best to remain neutral (you can see Qu Don's retarded comments on Vietrealm for reference). It's really easy to politicize what's going on in Myanmar, look down on them or silence their sufferings just to score brownie points vs China. Or say they're all Chinese, they deserve it. Easy especially when you don't have to suffer bombs, mines and artillery but instead write garbage on a forum. So where's poohunter to defend these people's right to build their own paths? Where's 222, the expert of Shan, Dai and all Indochinese/Myanmar ethnicities to wish for their freedom? Where's the respect and compassion for people who clearly need it most? The people I hate most are those holding contempt and little compassion for the most vulnerable, the undefended, the weak, the poor, the downtrodden. I despise those who callously mistreat and slander minorities without a voice of their own. Always have, always will. To the certain somebodies, grow a heart and get some compassion for crying out loud. defiancexyzz This topics was moved to spam box after report by poohunter eastbound88.com/showthread.php/40114-JIhad-in-Thailand-27-Confirmed-Dead-in-Islamic-Bombings-of-Hindu-Shrineeastbound88.com/showthread.php/36573-Brunei-Cracks-Down-on-Chinese-New-Year-its-battle-against-non-Muslim-celebrationseastbound88.com/showthread.php/36284-Isis-executes-3-of-its-Chinese-militants-says-report-China-has-expressed-concerneastbound88.com/showthread.php/42679-HIV-AIDS-can-be-cured-within-24-hours-using-Quran-–-Salawatiya-Muslim-clericThis topics was origin post in Malaysia chat but get dumped into spam box by poothunter but after i complain to MrC it moved to history and politics eastbound88.com/showthread.php/45751-The-rise-of-anti-Chinese-politics-in-Malaysia-Indonesiaeastbound88.com/showthread.php/45925-Student-claims-Umno-man-stole-her-photo-for-anti-Bersih-propagandaThis topics was posted by PrinceValiant in Asian section or Malaysia chat which moved to spam box but after he complain it moved to history and politics eastbound88.com/showthread.php/45794-Red-shirt-group-in-Malaysia-are-thugs
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Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 25, 2017 7:07:12 GMT
eldertree @la branch I saw this thread in the spam box since it was first posted but never brought it up intentionally. I did give hints here and there (by mentioning the Tibet thread and how double standards is the EB88 standard). I was just waiting, testing to see the first person to notice that thread. To tell you the truth, I was hoping for someone to bring it up. And lo and behold, you were the first (but that's something I've observed about you all the while I've been browsing EB88). And I'll tell you why it's in spam. Depending on who put it there, the motives vary but remain roughly the same. TBH, I think it's poohunter the hypocrite who placed it there but I can't be certain. They're basically either: 1. trying to "protect" non-existant Burmese members on EB88 from being "played against each other" (but have no qualms about playing 'Han' Chinese against our own ethnic minorities/neighbors) 2. brushing aside any persecutions against 'Kokang Chinese' because we're lower than dirt, our lives don't really matter compared to other Asians they pander to (and who they've barely had a relationship with) Here's why that logic is stupid and shows how racist and hypocritical EB88ers really are. 1. The MNDAA aren't just Chinese, they're multi-ethnic people including many other ethnic natives to those regions of which the Kokang are a part of. They've been fighting for a civil war for a long, long time. You don't even have to guess why they've decided to unite against the Myanmar army 2. They only care about Asians/peoples persecuted by "Chinese" (and mostly in the distant past), but think nothing of the natives persecuted/genocided by SEAs NOW. 3. They step all over these people just to trash the Chinese, who've tried their best to remain neutral (you can see Qu Don's retarded comments on Vietrealm for reference). It's really easy to politicize what's going on in Myanmar, look down on them or silence their sufferings just to score brownie points vs China. Or say they're all Chinese, they deserve it. Easy especially when you don't have to suffer bombs, mines and artillery but instead write garbage on a forum. So where's poohunter to defend these people's right to build their own paths? Where's 222, the expert of Shan, Dai and all Indochinese/Myanmar ethnicities to wish for their freedom? Where's the respect and compassion for people who clearly need it most? The people I hate most are those holding contempt and little compassion for the most vulnerable, the undefended, the weak, the poor, the downtrodden. I despise those who callously mistreat and slander minorities without a voice of their own. Always have, always will. To the certain somebodies, grow a heart and get some compassion for crying out loud. defiancexyzz This topics was moved to spam box after report by poohunter eastbound88.com/showthread.php/40114-JIhad-in-Thailand-27-Confirmed-Dead-in-Islamic-Bombings-of-Hindu-Shrineeastbound88.com/showthread.php/36573-Brunei-Cracks-Down-on-Chinese-New-Year-its-battle-against-non-Muslim-celebrationseastbound88.com/showthread.php/36284-Isis-executes-3-of-its-Chinese-militants-says-report-China-has-expressed-concerneastbound88.com/showthread.php/42679-HIV-AIDS-can-be-cured-within-24-hours-using-Quran-–-Salawatiya-Muslim-clericThis topics was origin post in Malaysia chat but get dumped into spam box by poothunter but after i complain to MrC it moved to history and politics eastbound88.com/showthread.php/45751-The-rise-of-anti-Chinese-politics-in-Malaysia-Indonesiaeastbound88.com/showthread.php/45925-Student-claims-Umno-man-stole-her-photo-for-anti-Bersih-propagandaThis topics was posted by PrinceValiant in Asian section or Malaysia chat which moved to spam box but after he complain it moved to history and politics eastbound88.com/showthread.php/45794-Red-shirt-group-in-Malaysia-are-thugsDo you have proof it's him though? I know for a fact that he was responsible for the Thais being more Northern than Viets and Red shirt one because he admitted to it, with incredibly dumb reasons. Something about trying to "save the forum from a war" and me and walrus just thought it was ridiculous and funny. Seriously no one cares enough about butthurt Malay politics to begin starting an all out war over that. Seems to be someone with a clear agenda and the worst type of person to be a moderator. Just by looking at the SPAM sections, it's clear whoever moved those threads to SPAM is an Islamofascist. It's also clear that there's a complete disregard towards the Chinese there and any Chinese posting on EB is wasting his/her time. EB is essentially an anti-Chinese website and so is Vietrealm. I think I've come to the conclusion that forums dominated by Southeast Asians, especially insular SEAs, with particular grudges against Chinese are bound to be an unpleasant failure. ISEAs just aren't subtle about their biases and can't think logically. I mean Mr Zhao and Ms Liu are their own individuals and not representative of the government/military, unlike Poophunter. I've been on Steppe and Central Asian forums before and despite animosities they have vs the Chinese, they're smart enough to accept individuality and hold decorum and civility that some other Asian groups don't ever have. Provided you are civil yourself. "Treat others how you'd like to be treated", the Confucian law of reciprocity. For the Malays it's treat me fairly while accepting my right to treat you like crap. Sad and disgusting.
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Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 25, 2017 8:43:07 GMT
galvatronprime Anyway that's enough talk about that disgusting poohunter for one day. Let's discuss something more important. Is it possible for you and some of the more fair minded mods to get Ironman to take that thread out of SPAM (yes, I've given up on any fairness or any form of compassion from MrCr@p long ago). It's very insulting (and unethical) to the persecuted minorities of Myanmar to leave it there. You guys can even get Ironman to talk to me personally since I do feel he is sincerely trying to make things better. He needs to be a little firmer when stating his reasons and stick to his values. Though I know he can't pull it off easily since he's too nice except to this Ejay person lol. I promise I'll try to be as courteous as possible since I do feel he is a sincere and fair minded person. The two Malay people who're always bleating about ASEAN unity don't seem to care about these ethnic groups when they're actually being oppressed, only if China is doing something to them (like hundreds of years prior). Just goes to show how Sino-Tibetans/Tibeto-Burmans really are viewed as a separate race and are considered Southeast Asian only for political reasons, i,e. pandering and pseudofying purposes so I'll leave it up to you to take responsibility and be a fairer moderator for all Asians, not just "mainstream" ones.
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Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 25, 2017 9:13:46 GMT
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Post by redwine on Mar 25, 2017 10:05:15 GMT
Defense, I notice you have the tendency to make broad generalizations about entire groups of people.
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Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 25, 2017 10:11:01 GMT
But those generalizations tend to be accurate and mere observations. I wouldn't be making them if that weren't the case. If they're wrong I'd readily accept I'm wrong but more often than not, they're not.
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Post by redwine on Mar 25, 2017 14:29:37 GMT
I do not appreciate your bitching against my ethnicity.
You need to stop.
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Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 25, 2017 16:04:31 GMT
I'd stop but there'd always be a Prophet Luong or a Qu Don around the corner making genocidal/racist comments against Chinese 24/7. The truth is most Chinese don't hate Vietnamese at all and definitely not with the same intensity that the Vietnamese hate on the Chinese.
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Post by redwine on Mar 25, 2017 16:36:43 GMT
I'd stop but there'd always be a Prophet Luong or a Qu Don around the corner making genocidal/racist comments against Chinese 24/7. The truth is most Chinese don't hate Vietnamese at all and definitely not with the same intensity that the Vietnamese hate on the Chinese. It's funny how you point to those specific individuals and somehow extrapolate that to an entire ethnicity. You also somehow ignore the rest of Viet members who show no sign of antagonism. Imagine if I were to do the same and generalize all Chinese based on your toxic racist bitching. I sometimes wonder whether you're actually Chinese at all and only pretending to be one.
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Post by eldertree on Mar 25, 2017 17:10:57 GMT
Vietrealm has some nasty members like Ejay and Qu Don. Gaden and redwine are cool. Atreyu seems to go with the flow.
Eb88 has a much more concerning problem: it has some nasty moderators.
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Post by defiancexyzz on Mar 27, 2017 6:20:56 GMT
A lot could be said but I won't go further. Let's just say I don't recall "bitching" about Viets here and I've actually toned down on the "racist, toxic, etc" since I promised I would to eldertree. As for "inspiration" to my "racist, toxic, etc", I don't think I have to explain more. Malays/Indos are a different case. It's difficult to contain being repulsed because I despise hypocrisy. It's only natural to feel disgusted by a certain mod's pitting SEAs/other Asians against Chinese when his own corrupt government and ethnicity(which he supports wholeheartedly) is the one treating fellow SEAs/other Asians the worst. The way they treat vulnerable fellow SEAs is sickening and more attention should be brought to that. Besides, I hate seeing fellow Chinese abused by a cr@ppy excuse of a human being.
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Post by thejackal on Mar 29, 2017 9:07:57 GMT
I'd stop but there'd always be a Prophet Luong or a Qu Don around the corner making genocidal/racist comments against Chinese 24/7. The truth is most Chinese don't hate Vietnamese at all and definitely not with the same intensity that the Vietnamese hate on the Chinese. Since I have known you, you have always used extreme words and caused misunderstandings. Many Vietnamese aren't out to get you and most are tired of the constant trolling.
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Post by thejackal on Mar 29, 2017 9:30:58 GMT
galvatronprime Please think about the people who've been displaced or left orphaned in the midst of this conflict. Let's not politicize their sufferings but respect their plight. EB88ers, you might not think they're related to you or that they're all simply "Chinese" (highly laughable, misinformed and racist BTW) but they are people too. I'm not asking for anyone to comment on that thread, I'm not asking for anyone to get blamed... all I'm asking is for a little empathy and to put it where it should be as a sign of solidarity and respect, the least you could do. They're people. They laugh They cry Think about your own family and friends, even enemies and count your blessings... For NO child should have to live like this, caring for their siblings in place of their parents and surrounded by a military presence It's nice to see people who care. Very sad, especially for the children.
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