uisashi
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Post by uisashi on Apr 30, 2023 6:13:21 GMT
Throw is just making objective observations about different groups of people, no agenda attached while some of you guys have obvious agendas and seem to be fighting some weird north Vs south war that none of us care about?
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Post by utuwutu2000 on Apr 30, 2023 6:18:52 GMT
Throw is just making objective observations about different groups of people, no agenda attached while some of you guys have obvious agendas and seem to be fighting some weird north Vs south war that none of us care about? when you know that throway 2 is also called observer_ t He said some very outrageous things on other forums, and if you see they, it may change your perspective on Throway2
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throway2
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Post by throway2 on Apr 30, 2023 6:30:05 GMT
Throw is just making objective observations about different groups of people, no agenda attached while some of you guys have obvious agendas and seem to be fighting some weird north Vs south war that none of us care about? If you know that throway 2 is also called observer_ t when He said some very outrageous things on other forums, and if you see them, it may change your perspective on Throway2 Bruh... I literally just said modern Austronesians may have been catalyzed at least strongly by a migration either relating to or from coastal northern China. This becomes very obvious when you compare the earliest southern Fujian samples like Liangdao to later ones and modern northern Austronesians (both Taiwanese aborigines and Igorots). This is also supported by rice farming spread dynamics. This doesn't change anything? No one IRL really identifies as "northern" or "southern" outside of a strictly modern Chinese framework. Why the hell does it matter to an Austronesian speaker that some of their ancestors may have originated in what is now northern China? It doesn't mean they were "northern Chinese"?
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Post by utuwutu2000 on Apr 30, 2023 6:32:44 GMT
If you know that throway 2 is also called observer_ t when He said some very outrageous things on other forums, and if you see them, it may change your perspective on Throway2 Bruh... I literally just said modern Austronesians may have been catalyzed at least strongly by a migration either relating to or from coastal northern China. This becomes very obvious when you compare the earliest southern Fujian samples like Liangdao to later ones and modern northern Austronesians (both Taiwanese aborigines and Igorots). This is also supported by rice farming spread dynamics. This doesn't change anything? No one IRL really identifies as "northern" or "southern" outside of a strictly modern Chinese framework. Why the hell does it matter to an Austronesian speaker that some of their ancestors may have originated in what is now northern China? It doesn't mean they were "northern Chinese"? I know, but you don't need to Making the northern elements too important. We Zhuang people have also mixed in a small amount of NEA, so what do you mean is that our SEA is not important anymore?. This is the reason why I initially opposed you.SEA originated in the south and formed in the south.The local races and civilizations cannot all be brought by your NEA.The SEA also has its own civilization, such as the existing south minority culture and the Han culture are different
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Post by utuwutu2000 on Apr 30, 2023 8:09:58 GMT
In fact, I also hate wars between the North and the South, which are usually various comparisons, discriminatory and derogatory remarks. It's just that people who uphold this kind of argument are active in various places, and I don't want these people to appear on forums I like. If, on the other hand, I say that southerners are moving north and bringing civilization to the north, is there anyone who opposes me so We need to acknowledge the differences between the north and south. If we are too farfetched and insist on East Asian reunification, it will inevitably lead to a reversal of things,You can't even be honest about differences, so I have nothing to say
Moreover, the purpose of this post was originally to introduce the local people's looks and describe the types of differences, rather than comparing them from north to south
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Post by utuwutu2000 on Apr 30, 2023 10:42:05 GMT
Throw is just making objective observations about different groups of people, no agenda attached while some of you guys have obvious agendas and seem to be fighting some weird north Vs south war that none of us care about? I smiled. He's a paranoia, can he be called objective?,In the late Paleolithic period, the north and south were the same family. Now the Genetic distance has become far. The difference between the north and south is a consensus in genetics and physical anthropology. Believe it or not, it's up to you. I won't argue with you-all about this type of topic again in the future
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Post by okarinaofsteiner on Jun 15, 2023 4:38:02 GMT
I was asked to share this Chinese martial artist here by u/Radiant_Muffin7528. His face/head morph does exist among Lingnan Han, it's a recognizably Daic look IMO (although more divergent from the CJK mainstream than most archetypal Lingnan looks). Get a load of this 状帅哥 😤 💪🏼 youtube.com/@mykungfulife182Also- for those of you who know what my username is a reference to, here's a group of Hong Kong weeaboos who know how to play musical instruments
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mnopsc1b
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Post by mnopsc1b on Aug 3, 2023 12:46:33 GMT
I was asked to share this Chinese martial artist here by u/Radiant_Muffin7528. His face/head morph does exist among Lingnan Han, it's a recognizably Daic look IMO (although more divergent from the CJK mainstream than most archetypal Lingnan looks). Get a load of this 状帅哥 😤 💪🏼 youtube.com/@mykungfulife182His look is quite typically Lingnan and is quite commonly found in Guangxi, nothing to be surprised about. Whoever claims that this look is rare in Lingnan probably hasn't met enough Lingnan locals or have only met those from large metropolis like Shenzhen or Hong Kong where the bloodlines are quite mixed with a lot of Central or even Northern Chinese migrants.
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Post by mnopsc1b on Aug 3, 2023 12:58:14 GMT
Uisashi is now back at Tieba (a notorious Chinese forum full of Northern Chinese supremacists and ethnocentrists) and his username there is Yudajin111. I've been quietly following him there for quite a while and most of what he said there is nothing more than bias.
His new claim there is that Western China has a more unified look than Eastern China and that people from Henan all the way to Guangxi look exactly the same whereas Eastern China has more diverse phenotypes.
This is absolutely bullshit! Western China is definitely more diverse than Eastern China. I have many Guangxi friends and I've also met people from Henan, and I think there're obvious differences between these two groups. Most people from Henan just look like your regular or stereotypical Northern Chinese (for instance the Henan comedian Yue Yunpeng), whereas people from Guangxi no matter which ethnic group they belong to all have rather strong Daic, Austronesian, or sometimes even Austroasiatic influences.
Even Northwestern China is more diverse than Northern and Northeastern China.
Really what he says shows that he's clueless about the diversity of peoples in China.
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mnopsc1b
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Post by mnopsc1b on Aug 3, 2023 13:01:39 GMT
As Anthrogenica is closing down (sadly), I'm probably going to post more often here, unless a better platform could be found.
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Post by uisashi on Aug 6, 2023 4:26:04 GMT
I never said people in Guangxi look exactly the same as people in Henan df? But at times there is definitely a shared western Chinese look like this Henan guy who imo passes easier in Guangxi than in say as a Yantai native. Also eastern China imo can be very diverse. People in far eastern Jiangnan for example like Nantong look different to people in say Changzhou/Nanjing. People in Shanxi/Henan are also more broadly Chinese passing than people in say Liaoning or Yantai.
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Post by mnopsc1b on Aug 6, 2023 14:34:04 GMT
I never said people in Guangxi look exactly the same as people in Henan df? But at times there is definitely a shared western Chinese look like this Henan guy who imo passes easier in Guangxi than in say as a Yantai native. Also eastern China imo can be very diverse. People in far eastern Jiangnan for example like Nantong look different to people in say Changzhou/Nanjing. People in Shanxi/Henan are also more broadly Chinese passing than people in say Liaoning or Yantai. View AttachmentThis Henan guy has a rather flat and chubby face, which is typical of Central Chinese. Far South Chinese people’s face like those from Guangxi are usually less chubby and less flat, and the eyes are also usually larger and deeper. IMHO this Henan guy passes a lot better in places like Anhui, Hubei, or Sichuan than in Guangdong or Guangxi. Really I feel that most of you Northern Chinese are hyper ignorant about Far South Chinese people’s appearance. I have a lot of Guangxi friends and acquaintances and most of them look like these individuals. And I think they would fall into SE Asian types like Annamid, Tonkinesid, or Eastern Shanid rather than the Chukiangid category. While I'm not saying that the Chukiangid category absolutely doesn't exist in Guangxi, it really isn't that common and isn't typical for the region either. I'd say the Chukiangid type is more typical of Central China rather than Far South China, and the name is really a misnomer.
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Post by mnopsc1b on Aug 6, 2023 14:44:30 GMT
I never said people in Guangxi look exactly the same as people in Henan df? But at times there is definitely a shared western Chinese look like this Henan guy who imo passes easier in Guangxi than in say as a Yantai native. Also eastern China imo can be very diverse. People in far eastern Jiangnan for example like Nantong look different to people in say Changzhou/Nanjing. People in Shanxi/Henan are also more broadly Chinese passing than people in say Liaoning or Yantai. View AttachmentHere’re some more Guangxi people’s photos, all I deem to be rather typical for their region.
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Post by mnopsc1b on Aug 6, 2023 14:52:45 GMT
I never said people in Guangxi look exactly the same as people in Henan df? But at times there is definitely a shared western Chinese look like this Henan guy who imo passes easier in Guangxi than in say as a Yantai native. Also eastern China imo can be very diverse. People in far eastern Jiangnan for example like Nantong look different to people in say Changzhou/Nanjing. People in Shanxi/Henan are also more broadly Chinese passing than people in say Liaoning or Yantai. View AttachmentEastern Chinese are definitely less diverse than those from Western China, both genetically and phenotypically. Genetically speaking, Eastern Chinese are situated very close to Northern Chinese on the PCA chart. And in terms of phenotype, I feel that a lot of people in Jiangsu/Shanghai/northern Zhejiang can pass in Henan/Shandong and vice-versa. It's only in southern Zhejiang that you'd start to see some differences. But even then I'd say that types similar to Henan and Shandong can be found all the way south in Fujian and Taiwan.
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Post by utuwutu2000 on Aug 19, 2023 21:20:16 GMT
It's my turn to join. Occasionally, when I have free time, I come over and post.I don't want to argue anymore this time, I just want to share some pictures Here are some studies summarizing the genetic differences between the North and the South. Many people know that until now, the southern rice ethnic group and the northern millet population are two relatively different groups. Asian ethnic groups can unite, cooperate, and love each other, but differences should not be ignored, groups should not be confused, and ethnic groups with small bullying numbers and weaker cultural levels should not be discriminated against So Why must southerners obtain the Northern gene in order to be recognized and welcomed by everyone? I have never regarded an ancient northerner with whom I have little connection as my ancestor, especially those in the north who are truly descendants of the north. They also have the same mentality towards the south, and there is no need to blindly choose relatives I think it's good to identify with one's local ancestry, which is good for oneself and others
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