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Post by eldertree on Apr 3, 2017 14:02:20 GMT
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 3, 2017 15:11:30 GMT
I have to draw a few diagrams to get my point across. But for now it may suffice to mention Guy Pierce.
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Post by eldertree on Apr 3, 2017 16:14:21 GMT
I think I know His cheekbones are positioned diagonally so when viewed from a 45 degree angle it appears high but head on you only get the lower portion of it which would only be evident if he turns his face to a 45 degree angle. Nevertheless a diagram would really help to reveal the truth behind his zygomatic structure and zygomatic structures like his
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 4, 2017 0:49:04 GMT
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 4, 2017 1:06:40 GMT
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 4, 2017 1:22:45 GMT
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 4, 2017 1:26:15 GMT
So I think Guy Pearce is the 3.5:4, Zhao Lei is 19:20, and Tom Harding is 9:8. But the thing is they all have the same height cheekbones with about the same prominence. The illusion of different heights is due to the amount of prognathism. Since Tom Harding has the least prognathism it is going to appear as though he has the lowest cheekbones.
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 4, 2017 1:41:02 GMT
Actually 9:8 is more like this Mongolian beef eater. The cheekbones show because she is not really prognathic. The strange thing is I remember seeing a skull measurement chart which lists Mongolians as being among the most prognathic so I could be wrong. In any case their prominence in cheekbones really shows and it makes it seem really low.
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 4, 2017 1:45:08 GMT
Tom Hardy is smiling and you can see that kind of Mongolian cheek thing going on though his aren't readily apparent. If he had shed about 10 pounds or so he would probaby start looking it even more.
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Post by eldertree on Apr 4, 2017 9:27:29 GMT
Very interesting diagrams, so does 3:5:4 or 9:8 have high cheekbones? And prognathic skulls produces the appearance of lower cheekbones?
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 4, 2017 12:54:47 GMT
3.5:4 is like Guy Pearce. Because the alignment of the cheekbones relative to the rest of the lower jaw is more "retracted" the bottom portion of the cheekbones is not protrusive. So his cheekbones are "high" in that regard. 9:8 is like Tom Hardy. The cheekbones don't have the "retraction" and his cheeks will appear rounded in the frontal plane, or protrusive. Therefore the lower portion are more visible and we say he has medium cheekbone height. Zhao Lei probably has some really prominent cheekbones and they are also high but the thing is he has just a bit of prognathism so the protrusive bit doesn't show as much. People with really vertically expansive or wide bottom jawlines can also be equated in a way to the 3.5:4 example because the configuration will add a layer of concealment to the lower portion of the cheekbones making them appear more "retracted".
"Aryan perfection" has a 19:20 minor prognathism with advanced vertical jaw height. The prominence of the lower portion of his cheekbones is hidden and therefore his cheekbones appear higher than even those of Zhao Lei.
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Post by foheadDynasty on Apr 4, 2017 13:02:55 GMT
What I am getting at is that there are 2 critical elements for the perception on the height of cheekbones. One is relative to the height of the face and its position relative to the eyes and the bottom of the chin. But the second one is the one we have been trying to figure out which is why sometimes the different photos of the same people can look different. It has to do with figuring out where the prominence of the lower portion of the cheekbone lies and how much that part superimposes on the features of the rest of the face to produce a uniquely lower cheekbone look.
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